Tuesday, July 22, 2008

They Got No Pension.

Over the years I have poster here and at Roots web a lot of information on pension, but I have never said anything about the men and women, who had unfavorable pension reports and didn’t receive one. I will now correct that error now, I always tried to help those family’s that were looking to see if an ancestor got a pension. It never accrued to me to look for those that didn’t receive a pension. The idea behind this web site is to find as many of your ancestors as possible to help you place his or her name in the right time and place in your family's history.

Note. This information comes from the House of Congress & committee’s on claims.
If you need help or have a commit you can write to me at : dsegelquist1@cox.net


Committee on Revolutionary claims.
Unfavorable reports.


1.. In 1846, A memorial of Priscilla C. Harmon and Sally B. Potts, of Norfolk, Virginia, heirs of Captain William Rogers, of the army of the Revolution, praying one year's pay and interest for the services of their deceased father in the war of the Revolution. Found no record they got it.

2. Daniel Hubble, was a second Lieutenant in 1776, under Colonel Lewis Dbois. He was from the State of Kentucky, made Captain on May 3, 1808. He resigned in 1809. In 1828, he was asking that his name be restored to the pension roll of The United States from which he had been stricken in consequence of the estimated amount of his property. I found no record he received a pension.

3. In 1832, Edmund Brooke claims pay, commutation and bounty lands, for his service in the Revolution, as first Lieutenant in the first regiment of Virginia artillery, on the Continental establishment. He states that he was appointed to that office in February, 1781, and continued in service till the siege of York, “When being extremely ill, he was compelled to ask a furlough for a few weeks.” The petitioner does not even state that he ever afterwards joined the Army, but that he held himself in redness to obey any call that might be made on him. The committee are of the opinion, from this statement of facts, that the acts of limitation would be amply sufficient to oppose this claim. It was later found the auditors office of the state of Virginia, that he had been paid by certificate in March, of 1798, all his statement were unfounded and his claim was not granted.

4. In 1836, Richard Booz, of Rockingham county, in the State of Virginia, praying for a pension for services rendered in the revolutionary war. Found no record he got it.

5. In 1824, Giles Reed, Pennsylvania, asking for a pension, I found no record of a pension.

6. In 1824, William Bowen, was asking for a pension, I found no record of a pension.

7. In 1824, Elkanah Danforth, of New Hampshire, asking to be restored to the pension roll as his was stricken in consequence of the estimated amount of his property, I found no record he got a pension.

8. George Moyer, of Tennessee, asking for a pension I found record he got a pension.

9. In 1836, John Croft, of Lock, in the county of Cayuga, New York, put in for a pension, I found no record he got a pension.

10. In 1832, Benjamin B. Bruce, asked for a pension, I found no record that he got one.

11. In 1837, Thomas F. Randolph, of Springfield, in the State of New Jersey, a revolutionary soldier; and of other inhabitants of Springfield, praying for an extension of the pension laws; and especially that the name of Thomas F. Randolph may be inscribed upon the revolutionary pension-roll. Found no record he got it.

12. In 1832, Hezekiah Dewese, of North Carolina, asked for a pension, I found no record that he got one.

13. In 1832, Noyce Stone, of Ohio, asked for a pension, I found no record that he got one.

14. In 1830, William Renason, of Ohio, stating, that he was a soldier in the war of the Revolution, that he lost a son in the late war with Great Britain, and that he is now old, helpless, and indigent; wherefore he prays a small donation in money, to enable him to purchase a half quarter section of land. I found no record he got his pension.

15. In 1832, Henry King, of the third Maryland regiment, asking for a pension, I found no record he got one.

16. In 1836, Moses Van Campen, of Livingstion county, New York, asking for a pension I found no record he got one.

17. In 1836, The Committee on Revolutionary Claims be instructed to inquire into the propriety of directing payment to be made to the heirs of Captain Reuben Waggoner, of the amount due him for services as an officer and private in the Virginia State line on continental establishment; and that said committee inquire into, and ascertain the amount if any, in money and land, there be due to the Said heirs for the revolutionary services of Captain Waggoner, either as an officer or private soldier. I found no record he got a pension.

18. In 1835, Elizabeth Reynolds, of the city of Baltimore, heir and daughter of Major William Bailey, asking for a pension. I found no record that she got one.

19. In 1827, Richard Clark, of Orange county, New York, asking for a pension. I found no record he got a pension.

20. In 1828. Richard Peacock, of Virginia asking for a prison. I found no record of him getting one.

21. In 1826, Zephaniah Franklin, ask for a pension. I found no record that he got it.

22. In 1837, Levi Todd, was asking for a pension he was a Lieutenant of the Virginia
regiment under Colonel George Rogers. I found no record he got his pension.

23. In 1834, Abeaham Bowman, his heirs were asking for part of his pension. He was a Colonel of the 8th. Virginia regiment on the Virginia line. His sons were Abraham and Joseph Bowman they were from Kentucky. In 1824 through the Virginia military warrants he brought 3 pieces of land in Ohio, between Ludlow's and Robert's lines, Survey No. 6927 value at $5., dollars per acres, Survey No. 6928 value at $2.25, dollars per acres, Survey No. 6929 value at $3.50, dollars per acres. I found no record that his heirs got any pension.

24. In 1824, Thomas Calderwood of Maine asking for arrearages on his pension. I found no reaord that he got it.

25. In 1823, Hannah Hagan, of New Orleans, praying for a pension, in consideration of debility contracted while a nurse and matron in the army of the United States. I found no record that she got it.

26. In 1827, William Withers of Virginia was asking for a pension. I found no record he got it.

27. In 1832, Thomas Ball, of the State of Virginia, heir of William Ball, of Wincherter, Virginia, deceased, praying to be paid the commutation of half pay to which the said William Ball was entitles as an ensign in the revolutionary army. Found no record he got it.

28. In 1837, Timothy Shay, of North Salem, in the State of New York, praying for an increase of pension. Found no record he got it.

29. In 1835, The heirs at law of Peter Garland, late of the State of Virginia, deceased, praying to be allowed and paid the commutation of half pay for life to which the said Peter Garland was entitled as a captain in the Virginia line of the army of the revolutionary war; which petition was referred to the Committee on Revolutionary Claims. Found no record they got it.

30. In 1835, Alexander Noel, of the State of Kentucky, praying to be allowed a pension for services rendered, and cruelties; and hardships endured by him while in the service of the United States during the revolutionary war. Found no record he got it.

31. In 1835, Joseph Winch, of Somerset county, in the State of Maine, praying to be allowed arrears of pension. Found no recoed that he got it.

32. In 1820, Joshua Spear, of Bradford county, in the State of Pennsylvania, was asking for a pension. I found no record that he got it.

33. In 1809, William Piatt was a 1st., Lieutenant of the 2nd., regiment infantray, to take rank of Captain February 17, in 1838, William F. Piatt and Jemima Shotwell, only surviving heirs of Captain William Piatt, deceased, who was an officer of the Revolution, praying for seven years' half pay. Found no record that the heirs got it.

34. In 1832, Stephen Freeman, of the State of New York, committee of the estate and person of Elijah Freeman, a lunatic pensioner, praying for arrears of pension due said Elijah Freeman; which petition was referred to the Committee on Revolutionary Pensions.

35. In 1844, A petition of Catharine Hood, of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, praying for compensation for the services of her late husband, George Hood, in the revolutionary war. I found no record that she got it.

36. In 1828, a petition of Andrew M. D. Jackson, in behalf of the heirs of the late Major William Jackson. of the State of New York. praying that certain claims of the said William Jackson, upon the Government of the United States, may be examined, and the stun ascertained to be due, paid. I founs no record that he got it.

37. In 1829, A petition of Polly Baker, formerly the wife of Andrew McGahee, a soldier of the Revolution, praying for a grant of the land due for the services of her late husband, as, also, to be placed on the pension list of the United States. I found no record she got it.

38. In 1837, John Hagie, was asking for a pension, then in the years of 1838-1860's, the petition of Catharine Hagie, widow of John Hagie, a volunteer under General Lafayette in the revolutionary war, praying a pension. Found no record that she got it.

39. In1829, In 1828, A petition of Francis Bents of the State of New York, asking compensation for services rendered in the French forces in America in the revolutionary war. Found no record that he got it.

40. In 1827, A petition of James Fling, of the county of Montgomery, in the State of Maryland, praying for a pension for revolutionary services. I found no record he got it.

41. In 1835, A petition of the heirs at law of Luther Waterman, deceased, as, also, heirs at law of John Waterman, deceased, praying to be paid the commutation of half pay to which the said Luther Waterman was entitled as a surgeon, and the said John Waterman was entitled as a lieutenant in the Massachusetts line of the revolutionary army. Found no record they got it.

42. In 1836, The petition of Frederick Rice, of Bedford, in the State of Pennsylvania, praying remuneration for services rendered to the United States during the revolutionary war. found no record he got it.

43. In 1794, and in 1836, Robert Peling were presented to the House and read, respectively praying compensation for services rendered, and injuries sustained, in the Army of the United States, during the late war. Found no record he got it.

44. In 1809 through 1828, William Wedderburn, of the town of Alexandria, in the District of Columbia, praying to be allowed the amount of pay and military land, due to Henry Read, Alexander Scott, Philip Lockhart, and John Ryan, for services rendered by them, as soldiers in the army of the United States, the petitioner having become the purchaser of their claims, for valuable consideration. I found no record that he got it.

45. In 1824, a petition of Welcome Wood, of the state of Massachusetts, praying to be allowed the arrearage of pension which he alleges to have been due to Eli Wood, a Revolutionary soldier, at the time of his death, as a compensation for the trouble and expense of supporting said Eli Wood, for several of the last years of his life. Found no record that he got it.


Committee on other kinds of Unfavorable pension reports.


46. In 1833, Samuel P. Goodsell, of Oneida county, in the State of New York, put in a claim at the invald pensions for the payment of arrearages of his pension. I found no record he got it.

47. In 1833, John Y. Hall, of New York, put in a petition for claim at the invalid a pensioners, praying to be allowed the arrears of a pension to which he conceives himself entitled. Found no record he got it.

48. In 1855, The petition of Tacey Conger, widow of Zachariah S. Conger, for five years' half-pay, on account of the services of her husband during the war of 1812; which was referred to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. I found no record that she got it.

49. In 1836, John Pittman, of Illinois, praying that his name may be enrolled upon the invalid pension list. I found no record that he got it.

50. In 1834, Larnard Swallow, of Oxford county, in the State of Maine, of Fort Preble put in to invalid claim for an increase of pension for disabilities incurred as a soldier in the service of the United States. I found no record that he got it.

51. In 1829, William Turney, of St. Charles county, and State of Missouri, invalid pension claim, praying for back pension in consideration of wounds and disabilities incurred as a soldier of the United States in the war of 1812 with Great Britain. Found no record that he got it.

52. In 1820, William W. Hall, late surgeon of the first rifle regiment, put in a military claim, complaining that, without any cause whatever, he was reduced from the rank of a surgeon, to that of an hospital surgeon's mate, and that a pension has been granted to him according to the latter rank, and that such pension has been made to take effect long after the time at which it was rightfully due; and praying to be restored to his proper rank, with the pension attached thereto, and that the arrearages of such pension may be also allowed him. I found no record that he got it.

53. In 1835, Philip Coleman, of Ohio put in a invalid pension claim, who was wounded while in the service of his country, at the battle of Fort Meigs, praying for a pension. I found no record that he got one.

54. 1838, Marcus Spalding, of the county of Genesee, in the State of New York, a Canadian volunteer in the time of the war of 1812 with Great Britain, praying compensation for services rendered to the United States. Found no record that he got it. Military claim.

55. In 1838, Marcus Spalding, of Erie county, Pennsylvania, a pensioner of the United States, praying for a grant of land: Military claim, found no record that he got it. Military claim.

56. In 1838, of Joseph Mays, of the county of Bath, in the State of Virginia, a soldier of the Revolution, praying for a pension. Found no record that he got it. Invalid pensions.

57. In 1833, Samuel Shorey, of the State of Maine, praying to be allowed and paid arrears of pension. I found no recor tht he got it. Invalid pensions.

58. In 1838, Elias Carpenter, of Sturbridge, in the State of Massachusetts, an invalid soldier of the war of 1812 with Great Britain, praying for arrearages of a pension. I found no record that he got a pension. Invalid pensions. In 1834, Elias Carpenter, of the State of Massachusetts, praying to be allowed a pension in consequence of wounds received while in the military service of the United States during the late war.

59. In 1826, Barbara Johnson, of Pennsylvania, widow of Andrew Johnson, deceased, a Lieutenant in the Revolutionary Army, praying that provision may be made for her maintenance in her old age. I found no record that she got it. Military claim.

60. in 1838, Samuel T. Winslow, of Auburn, in the State of Maine, praying for a pension on account of his infirmities, caused by hardships and exposure in the service of the United States in the late war with Great Britain. I found no record that he got it. Invaild pension.

61. In 1822, John Foster, of Charlotte county, Virginia, praying for bounty land and arrears of pay, for services in the late war. I found no record that he got it. military pension.

62. Leonard Joines, also speeled ( Joins ) of the State of Maryland, praying that his name may be inscribed upon the invalid pension list, in consideration of disabilities incurred in the service of the United States during the last war with Great Britain. I found no record that he got it. Invalid pension.
63. In 1834, Simom S. Morrill, of Deerfield in the county of Rockingham in the state of New Hampshire, asking to be placed on the invalid pension rool. I found no record that he got it.

64. In 1835, Captain John Crandon, of Dearborn county, in the State of Indiana, praying that his name may be placed on the pension roll of the United States, in consideration of services rendered by him in the naval service of the United States. I found no record that he got it. Military claim.

65. In 1809, Alexander Phelps, of the State of Connecticut, praying an increase of the pension heretofore allowed him in consideration of wounds received in the Revolutionary war with Great Britain. I found no record that he got it. Military pension.

66. In 1821, Benjamin Stevens, of Dearborn county, in the State of Maine, asking to be put on the pension roll. I found no record that he got it. Invalid pension.

67. In 1834, Henry Thompson, of Harrison county, in the State of Kentucky, a soldier in the last war with Great Britain, praying for a pension. I found no record that he got it. Invalid pension.

68. In 1836, Jonathan Herrick, of Beverly, in the State of Massachusetts, who was wounded during the late war with Great Britain, praying for an invalid pension. I found no record that he got it.

69. In 1839, Darius Hawkins, of Newport, in the county of Herkimer, State of New York, an officer in the late war with Great Britain, praying for arrears of pension. I found no record that he got it. Invalid pension.

70. In 1795, Ebenezer Stetson, of Dighton, in the State of Massachusetts, was presented to the House and read, praying relief in consideration of services rendered, and injuries sustained, as a marine on board the ship Viper, in the Navy of the United States, during the late war. In 1831, Ebenezer Stetson, of Dighton, county of Bristol, in the State of Massachusetts, a soldier of the Revolutionary war, praying for an increase of pension. I found no record that he got it. Military pension.

71. In 1836, Michael Cripps, of the county of Lincoln, in the State of Maine, who was a soldier during the war in 1813, praying that his name may be inserted upon the invalid pension roll. I found no record that he got it.

72. In 1838, Maria C. Bell, of Norfolk, in the State of Virginia, widow of Richard H. Bell, late a captain in the army of the United States, and wounded while in service, during the war with Great Britain, praying for the pension to which her husband was entitled. I found no record that she got it. Invalid pension.

Saturday, July 19, 2008

Our Ancestors On Navy Ships?-1700-??

There are many kinds of navy ships the Schooners, Brig, Frigates, Sloops and Gun-boats. I will be talking about these ships and more. This page will not only be about ships, but about a few of the men on them. Although This site is all about surnames, those of you who been to my site before know I always put the surname in some kind of historical back ground. There are a lot of family’s looking for the names of the ships their ancestors sailed on. Now I may not name the ship your looking for, but by reading this page you will learn what life was like on these ships.

Note. If you have a question or a comment, about this page or any other pages at this site you can write to me at the following I will glad to hear from you., dsegelquist1@cox.net

The loss of the schooner William. Yeaton.

In 1818, Joseph Forrest, put in a claim into the navy, it seems that in May of 1812, he chartered his vessel to the United States to carry flour to Laguayra as part of relief from an earthquake. When they arrived they were told they could not unload, until the town was occupied by the Spanish Army. When the army arrived the ship was taken as a prize. As it was near the time of the war with England, the port was under an embargo. The ship was found not to have all her papers. The ship was sold at auction for $1,025, Spanish dollars. His claim was not granted.

The loss of the schooner Penelope.

In 1821, Alvin Bronson, of New York, the owner of the schooner Penelope had a claim in naval affairs, in which it states that; Captain Melancthon T. Woolsey of the United States Navy, was employed during the late war to transport gun and other equipment for the navy, from Oswego to Sackett’s harbor. The schooner was order loader by Captain Woolsey, and give orders to a midshipman, along with seamen to take charge of her, and in case the enemy should succeed in taking over the fort at Oswego, they were to sink her with her cargo. The order was executed; but, as the persons engaged were not well acquainted with the harbor, that they sink her in water so shallow, that the enemy upon leaving Oswego, was able to raise her and took her away on May 6, 1814.

The Schooner Liberty.
August 19, 1778.

That it appears to the Committee, that the said John Harper and his Sons Joseph and John, of the State of Virginia, and Peter Kirwin, of the State of Maryland, were owners of the Schooner called Liberty in the said Memorial mentioned; that the said Schooner commanded by a certain Middleton Belt, on the eighth day of June last, was chased into Currituck Inlet by a British privateer, commanded by a certain--Goodrich, and was there on the afternoon of the same day captured by the said Privateer. That three men belonging to the said Privateer were put on board the said Schooner, and on the next morning in going out of the said Inlet, she was run aground by the said Belt; that after attempting in vain to heave off the Schooner, the three Privateer's men quitted the said Schooner, and went in her boat on board the said Privateer, leaving Captain Belt and two of his crew in possession of the said Schooner. That about ¾ of an hour after the Schooner grounded and was quitted by the privateers men, a party of Militia commanded by one Caleb Ansell came on board and beat off some boats sent in by the said Privateer, and thereby saved the said Schooner. That the said Caleb Ansell afterwards, on behalf of himself and his company of Militia, on the ninth day of June last, exhibited his Libel in the Court of Admiralty for the port of Currituck, in the said State of North Carolina against the said Schooner and her cargo on board, alledging as a cause of forfeiture, "that the same was British property, that she was taken in Currituck on the said ninth day of June by one Goodrich, an enemy of these States, and was retaken by the said Ansell and his company of Militia." That answers were put in to the said Libell by the said Belt and Peter Kirwin, one of the owners of the said Schooner, to which the Libellant demurred in law, and on joinder in demurrer the same was affirmed; and thereon on the nineteenth day of June a jury was impannelled, sworn and gave their verdict "that one-eighth of the true value of the said Schooner and her cargo was a lawful prize to the Libellants, together with costs of suit;" and on the next day the Judge gave judgment.

The united State schooner Grampus.

Note. The schooner Grampus captured the Spanish Brig Palmyra in 1822, for piracy.
In 1822, under the command of Lieutenant Francis H. Gregory, captured the Pancheia.
In 1830, under the command of Isaac Mayo, captured the Spanish slaver Fenix.

The schooner Grampus was lost in a gale in March of 1843, near the cost of the United States.

Some of the crew are:

1. Lieutenant Albert E. Downes, commanding, wife-Martha L. Dowries
2. Lieutenant George M. McCreery
3. Lieutenant William S. Swann
4. Lieutenant Hunn Gansevoort
5. Purser James S. Thatcher
6. Assistant Surgeon Edwin H. Conway
7. One owner of the Grampus, Ezekiel Holbrook
8. William McKenney-father was George L. McKenney

The loss of the private armed Brig General Armstrong.

On September 26, 1814, while the Armstrong out of New York, was lying at anchor in the port of Fayal, she was attacked by a superior British force, and after a brave resistance by her commander, Samuel C. Reed, and his crew the Brig was destroyed.

The loss of the Brig Epervier.

The Britannic Majesty’s Brig Epervier, was captured in 1814, by the sloop Peacock, at Lake Champlain, and put in to the service of the United States Navy. The Epervier was later lost in the Mediterranean in 1815, on the way back to the United States.

Part of the crew:

1. captain John T. Shubrick-Wife, Elizabeth Matilda Shubrick.
2. John Feran-Mother, Ann Feran.
3. Purser Melancton W. Bostwick.
4. Samuel Belding.
5. John Taylor.
6. Chauncey Belding.
7. Caleb Holmes.

The Frigate Philadelphia.

Part of the crew.

1. Lieutenant, Davie Porter.
2.Lieutenant, J. Jones.
3. Lieutenant, Theodore Hunt.
4. Lieutenant, Benjamin Smith.
5. Lieutenant, Marines, William S. Osborn.
6. Surgeon, John Ridgely.
7. Surgeon’s mate, John A. Cowdery.
8. Surgeon’s mate, Nich. Harwood.
9. Sailing master, William Knight.
10. Midshipmen, Bernard Henry.
11. Midshipmen, James Gibbon.
12. Midshipmen, Benjamin F. Reed.
13. Midshipmen, Wallace Wormley.
14. Midshipmen, Robert Gamble.
15. Midshipmen, James Biddle.
16. Midshipmen, Rd. B. Jones.
17. Midshipmen, D. T. Patterson.
18. Midshipmen, William Cutbush.
19. Midshipmen, Simon Smith.
20. Midshipmen, James Renshaw.
21. Sailing maker, Joseph Douglass.
22. Boatswain, George Hodge.
23. Gunner, Rd. Stephenson.
24. Carpenter, William Godby.

Sloop Portsmouth.
George B. Bacon, was a acting purser.

Sloop Falmouth.
1. Purser, William B. Hartwell
2. Purser, Charles S. Porcher, or Percher.
3. John Y. Mason Jr.

Sloop Hornet.

John Redman Coxe, was part of the crew that captured the British sloop Penguin.

Gun-Boats.

James Doughty, of Cumberland county, and State of Maine, asking for a pension on account of his services and injuries received on board a gun-boat in the service of the United States during the war of 1812 with Great Britain.

Gun-boat No. 5.
Commander was Batram G. Hipkins, 1808.

Gun-boat No. 11.
Richard Davidson, of the Mississippi Territory, was asking to be paid back for medicine he had furnished to the crew of Gun-boat No. 11., while station near Fort Adams in said Territory.

Gun-boat No. 159.
Ann Brown, asking for a pension in consideration of the loss of her husband, John Brown, deceased, whilst commander of gun boat No 159, which was wrecked in 1810.

Susanne B. Prefry, widow of James Prefry, who was wounded in the gun-boat service during the war of 1812, asking for a pension.

In 1861, Alfred Guthrie, was the inventor of a steam gun-boat and floating battery combined.

James Renshaw, was a Captain of a gun-boat in 1808.

Gun-boat No.164.
Samuel W. Lecompte, praying remuneration for his losses, occasioned by the wreck of the gun boat No. 164, in the year 1813, of which boat he was an officer.

Gun-boat No. 162.
Abraham H. Kinsley, of East Florida, and sundry citizens in his behalf, praying for a pension for services rendered as pilot, on board of gun-boat No. 162, in the year 1812.

Gun-Boats No. 149 & No 154.

While attempting to pass up the river Appalachicola, with a convoy of provisions and stores, in the month of July 1816, were attacked by a fort situated on said river and occupied by a number of fugitive Negroes and Indians, and who, in resisting said attack blew up and destroyed said fort, with, with the greatest part of those by whom it was occupied.

Note. By no means could I name all the ships the navy had, However here is a list of battles between ships. These reports not only tell of the battle but give a few crew names and in some cases a lot of names. These reports will only be send upon request as some are very long, you may request your report by writing to the above address.

These reports come Naval Affairs Vol. 1., 1794-1825.

1. Between the United States frigate Constellation and the French frigate La Vengeance.
2. Between the United States schooner Enterprise and a Tripolitan corsair.
3. Between the United States frigate United States and British frigate Macedonian.
4. Between the United States sloop of war Wasp and the British sloop of war Frolic.
5. Between the United States frigate Constitution and British frigate Java.
6. Between the American and British fleets on Lake Erie.
7. Between the United States brig Enterprise and British brig Boxer.
8. Between the American and British fleets on Lake Champlain.
9. Between the United States sloop of war Peacock and the British sloop of war Epervier.
10. Between the United States sloop of war Wasp and the British sloop of war Reindeer.
11. Between the United States sloop of war Hornet and the British sloop of war Penguin.
12. Between the American squadron and an Algerine frigate and brig in 1815.
13. Between the United States frigate Constitution and the British ships Cyane and Levant.
14. Between the boats of a British squadron and the American privateer General Armstrong.
15. Between the United States schooner Grampus and the Spanish privateer Pancheta.
16. Between the United States schooner Porpoise and the Spanish privateers Palmyra and G. Boves.
17. Between two piratical vessels and the boats of the United States schooner Alligator.
18. Between the piratical schooner Pilot and the barges Gallinipper and Mosquito.

Friday, July 18, 2008

Between Friends-Genealogy & Web Site Problems.

I believe that no one can go through life with out at lest one friend, one you can talk to about anything, one that can give you a boost up once in a while when we are down. I have a good friend like that, his name is Bud and his hobby is writing about the history of the U. S. Naval fighting ships, as for myself its genealogy. I like writing but I am far from being a good speller, but that dose not stops me. I met Bud a few years ago through my writings, he saw some my work and invited me to put some work up at his web site, and we have been friend ever sense.

Bud and I talk not just about are hobbies, but life in general, over the last year I being keeping his litters, as his answers to my questions still, help me. They have helped me so much, I thought I would work up a page, and put some of them up, in the hope that they may help some one else. I know there are many of you out there with the same hobby and have some of the same genealogy problems and web site problems as me, and I hope you will find some answers in these litters.

I wrote This litter sometime in late November, I’m talking about the counter on my new Web site ( Civil War Days & Those Surnames ) my site had just hit the main stream of the inter net listing ( As I call it ) and my site was just taking off.

Hi Bud:
I wrote you a couple a days ago but got no answer, then the mail came back to day I had the wrong address. But that’s ok I just wanted just to say hi….. that’s what people do when their bored but then I really shouldn’t say that, in that I have been working on my site every day…and just finish my third post today and just started a new one, it will be on the surnames of the Blockade-runners. The counter just keeps going up ( 1236 ) Bud in my last couple of indentations, I told them there would be no historical information on battles or ships and things like that, and that my information was on surnames only. However I stated I never give a surname with out giving the name of the battle he or she was killed in or captured at I also state even if they don’t find a surname but if they see a name of a battle or a ship they would like to know about I would be happy to look it up… was I wrong in doing it this way?…. Well like I said this was just to say Hi.

Bud's return litter: December 5, 07.

Hi Dennis,
How the heck are you this fine morning??? We got snow here in Indiana….it started coming down about 8:30 or 9 last night………and we had an accumulation of about 3 or 4 inches. Just enough so the kids well probably be "delayed" going to school this morning...........[they just love it to dead].

Well maybe all you wanted to do is say Hi…..but I enjoy hearing from you, that tells me your staying out trouble and at lest your attempting to stay busy.

Glad to hear that you continue to work on your site, we always need to keep the improvements of what and how we offer info. I find I get a lot of “hits” also, but out of all them hits I do believe most are just “shopping” for general info………but that is ok, that is what it is there for so I feel good about that.

Dennis here is what I find works very well in the situation that you describe as far as “Battles & Ships.”
I would explain to individuals that you possibly can offer a great deal of info on a surname, and just give a reference to the “battle or vessel” that the person was involved in.
I would explain that the battle and or vessel would only consist of a “thumbnail” content…..enough reference to “tie-in” that surname to circumstances of his/her military life.
Now the reason I suggest this is: you want those individuals to realize your “expert knowledge & interest” is manly on the surname………”yes” you do have sources to draw from to offer additional knowledge…..like “battles & ships…..but you want them to know that is not you “main ability of interest.”

So……my suggestion would be to “offer” the names of the battle & ship…..maybe a “very brief description of those……[ sometimes referred too as a ‘Thumb Nail’ ]…..but I would then offer to that individual……a “web site, a book title, or the contact of a person”…..that, if they choose to learn more about the “battles and or vessel” they could pursue those areas……..
In other words your telling them you know “something” about those battles and vessels, but if they wished to “know more in depth knowledge” they would best be served by going to those “other” experts in their field of interest…….that way you are still serving there needs, and they will appreciate that a grate deal.

Also Dennis I’ve found that if you do the above….then that person that is seeking info.....will more then likely keep coming back to you for “all” there “Look-ups”……..and the reason for that is..……you are not “ # % & * @” them. You are honest in telling them what you “Do Know” and suggesting to them “others” or “other sources” that can offer them “additional expert info……and people like “Honest” and “Upfront“ people.

Well good luck……and I hope some of the above has helped you sort out that particular situation.

“Enjoy, Bud.”

In January of 2008, I wrote a letter to Bud, as I put it, to “pick his brain.” I had started a new page on forts but, soon found there was very little information on surnames, and as my site is all about family names and very little history. I wasn’t sure which way to go. However I found the information very interesting and I thought it would make good back ground, for those looking into forts and family’s that may have had family members in some of these forts. So I sent Bud a sample of the information and ask him what he thought.

Bud's reply of January 15, 08.

Hi Dennis, I read over what you sent me about "Forts," and in my humble opinion.......I think it is interesting as hell. Also there are a few reasons you need to "post" this info.

No.1 is "you" are interested in that type of information......and actually that is "reason" enough, but you can bet if your interested in this sort of data, so are others. Another thing that goes along with this is........the info don't have to "lay" there forever........"Post, in your opinion, the most interesting of what you have"..........just to get a feel for others interest. In the "Post" ask them to "send" you a comment via your e-mail....or to share info that they have.

No.2. I would "post" that type of info under a "New Blog".....[completely New]....with a new title or heading....and then "Link" your two "blogs together."

No.3 Think about explaining to the reader how this material "may" help them in solving some incidents that they read or are searching for elsewhere.....the info you provide may "lead" them to "the why's....of something that they run across mentioned in there family history........ Sometimes individuals don't realize how the info they are reading is a benefit to them....so the "author" of which is "you".....need to "tickle there brain."......get them to think. As a suggestion...........if you put any words in your "post" that is "words they used to define something in those times" .....if I were you I would offer in the post......on what that word was.....how it came about to be used in that era.....as an example...you used the word " embrasures" in the "Fire at Delaware"......so just what is this word??? what does it describe????..... Any author will tell you.........if you don't know what the word means then either find out and put it in a footnote......or don't use it. But why not take it one step further......give a history of that word, why they used that word....and what is the word today we use for the same "item...description...etc....etc..." Never be boring.....always think of injecting new material into your work.....some of it may work....some may not....but how do you know for sure until you try!!! So.............there is my opinion............... Go for it.

In another letter in January of 08., I was telling Bud how much my E. Mails had dropped off, in the beginning when I started researching I would get 10 to 15 mails a day, but now, 1 or 2 a week. The numbers on my counter at my new web site was still going higher, but no questions. I asked him if he had any thought on the matter.

Bud’s reply January 30, 08.

Hi Dennis............ Well Dennis I've been having a tad of a problem with one of my e-mail accounts, so due to this hic-cup in the system, of which has not been fixed by the "computer experts" as of yet.....I've been re-arranging my address book and so on and so forth, of which has been "eating up a great deal of my time"....so that is why I haven't gotten back to you in a timely manner. I've looked over your "site or blog"......and I myself I like it. I think it is informative, and would offer a great deal of info to anyone that is searching for info from that era.

I hope you get a ton of hits off of it. My site & my blog started off early in the year with others having some interest in it, but hat has pretty much fallen off here in the last three weeks. I've always said that I do believe people are changing on how and why they use the computer to gather up "genealogy' material. It is my belief that the serious research is mainly a two fold situation......some info is gathered from the computer, but a lot of individuals have returned to "books and printed material" for their information.
Here in Fort Wayne, IN. we are fortunate enough to have the 2nd largest "genealogy" library in the U.S......and I go there fairly often, and when I do I see it is a very busy facility. Also the amount of "History," regardless of what area you're looking into....be it war's, ships, forts, individuals, surnames....etc...etc....there is just tons upon tons of info to pull from.....so is the computer measuring up with all of that??? I really don't know the answer to that, but I do know what once was ......is not as it is now. So, I think the computer is just 'another tool' but I don't think it is as useful of a tool as it first started out to the researcher.....books and printed material is still their primary source of information to search through.

How does that all change for guys like us??? Well if I was to guess I'd say whatever we put on the computer for others to "look at" will have to be "unique" material.....something that is normally tough for researchers to come up with, and the material that 'we' offer will have to be 'renewed & changed' very often. The 'same-oh....same-oh' or put it on a web site and leave it for a long period of time [and I am very guilty of this myself] is not going to attract many researchers..........and that I do believe is why I don't get many hits anymore. Well the above is just some of my thoughts......and it will be interesting on how "historical information" is offered in the future. Keep up the good work.....and hopefully your keeping extremely busy.....
Enjoy!!

On February 5, 08., I wrote Bud telling him I had tried something new at my web site. I had put up a Index listing all the names of interest and in the information I highlighted the surnames in red so they would jump out at you, I had Bud look it over and tell me what he thought of my changes.

Bud’s reply of February 6, 08.

Hi Dennis..............well Dennis it all looks terrific to me, and doing something just a tad different is a good thing. I guess it really don't matter what "we" think, actually it is what a "user" will think of the lay out. So I would say when people contact you about a request for info..........ask them what "their opinion" is of your site, and ease of use. No one better to judge your work than the actually "user" of the material.

Also another thing.......nothing is "set in stone"....it can be changed if you so desire....and you know Dennis, I am a firm believer that one needs to change things around every now and then...just to keep things interesting.

So.......what I'd do is live with it for awhile........give it a couple of weeks to mellow on you, then go back an re-read it, and try and look at it from a different perspective, and see what you think..........and if need be make some changes....or don't do anything to it.......... I like to give my material at least a month........then I go back and re-read.....and I see my huge typing errors, spelling errors, and also where a sentence does not make its point..... Then there are times I re-read and have been known to "throw the whole damn thing out".....because I haven't presented what I wanted to present in my original idea.

Looks as if you got a wonderful idea started....so if you think it is a "good start"...then give it some time to "grow on you" then go back in after a few weeks and "fine tune" if you so desire............ Looks good...........keep it up...hope you get a million hits.
Enjoy!

My research is in the field of Surnames, not only civilians but military ( 1789-1875 ) and I had just ran a cross some information, that had thousands of window pensioners, and navy, marine pensioners, and deserters. But had no way of cross referencing them so I could put the windows with the service men. Also a lot of my information only covers Officer, but had a lot of lower ranks but no way to look them up, I needed a reference book, or a web site that could help. I wrote Bud on February 8, 08., asking if he could help.

Bud’s reply of February 8, 08.

Hi Dennis............WoW!!!...that is a tough question. I'm assuming your interested in the mid 1800's or so.....as far as these roasters are concerned I've run across "state wide roasters" when I was at the Library.....in the genealogy dept. I don't know for sure if there would be a national one available or not....but I may have a suggestion. If you have a "Library" near you.....or at least a Library that you can make a call too.....why not give them a ring, and pick there brain a tad. You see Dennis, most Library's belong to a "Book loan system".....where as the Library you call may not have the particular book that lists these roasters.....but they just may know "how to find out if one has been printed....and if so....is it available"............... So......don't discount giving the ole Library a call an let them work for you is seeing if anything has ever been published........ The reason I bring all this to your attention is.....I purchased a book a few years ago, that had a roaster in it of the lower ranks of the men that served in the Civil War from "Allen County" here in Indiana.............so I am fairly sure the material is available............but where this info is located...and in what venue that you can obtain is the question......but I'll bet my billfold that a "Library can help"... Hope that helps.
Enjoy!!

In June I had found a lot of information on Dartmoor prison, but found that there was a lot of information and it would take weeks if not months to put it all together. So I put it aside. I wasn’t looking for that much work. While I started to complain that I could find no subject matter to work on. Then out of the blue a men from England wrote me saying he had a lot of information on the prison and could I use it?, well one then lead to another, so I worked up two pages on Dartmoor, it took a little over a month to finish. I wrote Bud and asked what he did when he found it hard to find subjects to work on.

Bud’s reply of June 5, 08.

Dennis you mention your kind of "in between" ideas on what to get involved in as far as your next project...... well I have the same problem at different times.........I have a solution that "works" for me...........maybe it will provide you with some ideas to use on your own. I have a folder......labeled "NAVAL HISTORY SUBJECTS".........in this folder I "jot" down "off the wall subjects" .....some of the subjects that sound interesting I gather up when I'm reading or researching "another subject"....or "I have a damn brain storm" and one pops into my pea brain....so I jot them down in this folder for "possible"....and the important word here is "POSSIBLE"....use at a later date. Sometimes I'm researching something else and I "run across" material that pertains to a "subject" in my "NAVAL HISTORY SUBJECTS"....so I "sub note" under the main subject what I found....where I found it....so I can go back to it if I ever wish to write about that particular subject. Now this may or may not work for "you".....but if I were you I'd develop a system for yourself....and will work for you.....the different subjects that you come into contact with...and feel it [Has a Possible Importance and May be considered for a future article]…is interesting to put on your site. This way you "always" have material to "tease" your brain to consider that particular subject.....the more you think of and list the more you have to choose from............... So.......give it some thought. Any way...........good to hear from you.........and don't set around and mull over what to research......just reach right out and pick a subject......you may be surprised at how much you learn by reading and researching it.
Enjoy!!

Again in June I wrote Bud about my writings on Dartmoor prison, I found I was a little shake on writing the pages as the man who was helping me, had wrote a book on it, and was some one of importance, and I didn’t think I could do as good of a job (measure up) to his writings, so I wrote Bud on the matter

Bud’s reply of June 17, 08.

Hi Dennis.............. Well Dennis.....I've been involved a few times with the very same set up that you have described .... Never under-estimate yourself and your research and writing skills on what you do and how you do it. Actually you don't have to "measure up" to anyone........that is why we are "individuals".........each can take the same subject and each of us will research that subject....and write about it in a our own way..........and each will be different....and all will be interesting. So.......my suggestion is .......give it a try.......you may enjoy it...........and then again you may not.......but what have you lost....."actually nothing" you've gained knowledge....and you worked in an area that was interesting to you..... Now if you find you don't wish to "work with this dude [Ron Joy from England].......then just e-mail him and say your going to go back to doing what you feel is in "your" best interest..........."END OF STORY!!!" You don't "owe" him a long drawn out reason that you are not going to continue..............if you don't like it ...or the situation............you just say............."I'm done!!"

All that counts is......You enjoy what your doing......your following what your heart tells you......and your comfortable in this type of setting...........and if you can say "yes" to all of the above........then all the rest will fall into place......but.....and yes there is a "but". Don't think you have to "measure up" to this guy....... Maybe he has to "measure up" to "YOU" Another thing.............don't let him "USE YOU".......if you feel you and your material is being taken advantage .....used....then "dump this guy like a hot piece of coal"................OK???

Look at "trying" in this manner Dennis.............thoughtout our lives we were introduced to many things.....and "we tried" many of them............some we found we liked...we enjoyed them...and they become a part of us...we learned.....but some we found we didn't like..........so we "dropped them".....and moved on....and we continued to try other "new" exciting things.....and that "trying" continues until the day we die..................some we like...some we don't..........again that is why we all are not alike.......we are individuals. Does that all help???

In another letter in June to Bud I wrote saying how I hated writing introductions ( lead in), I all ways found it hard to find just the right words, and can’t not seem to find just the right words. I wrote Bud to ask what he did when that happens to him.

Bud’s reply of June 21, 08.

Well Dennis it seems as I get older my "Memory" seems to evade me.....hell I have the same problem in attempting to "put words together"..........sometime things can fall together in a 'New York minute'....and other days I can't think of words that will fit the subject.......... Most of the time when that happens I just stop and go on to something completely different...... But I'll have to say.........sometimes that works for me and sometimes it does not.

Dennis I try to take a "subject ....be it 'history' or whatever"....and read about it from several different authors.....and inter into all of that 'first hand accountings, journals....etc...etc.' and then "I form my own opinion on what took place...or what happened....or who thought this or that"......then I write what "I" thought. I don't care if the words are correct or not, or how it looks.........I get my "thoughts of the my version of what took place on paper"....... Then I put it aside. In a couple of days I then bring it up on the computer....[I put everything on the computer in files].....I re-read it.....do some polishing of the words....."put in words...take out words".....just start to "clean it up." I may do this 3, 4, 5 or so times....until I can read it and know I've put "MY" thoughts and comments as plainly as I can........... Most of the time I find that my writings will agree with about 50% of what I've read from other authors.....but mostly I find that even though I've read some of the same material others have read....I may get a different "spin" on what took place or what actually did happen..... To me that is neat for many to have a different slant on what took place.....because the more individuals that read and write about an event....the more the actual 'truth' is laid before us on the events of that day, that battle....or event.

When I do a "Lead-in"......I give a slight "overview" of what I feel is interesting............and I attempt to "tease" the reader. I want to raise a question in his mind......"Hmmmmmm....now that is interesting....what did actually happen??"..... And the only way he/she can find out the answer is to read the article..........so I like to "play" with the readers mind on my "Lead-in"..... So to me the "Lead-in" is a fun page to write......because all the while I'm attempting to "tickle" the readers interest.....just enough so they say to themselves, "Damn....I didn't realize this........this is very interesting...why haven't I heard about this??" Also I want to "gather in" the "Non-History Reader."....the person that has never in their life picked up a history book............. And actually that is pretty easy to do...........so.....I just try to "Raise Questions" to gather in readers...............and sometimes I do.........and a lot of times I don't..........but it sure is fun trying.

Anyway Dennis ....keep up the "good work"..........and my statement to you is ...."Write what you wish.....and Write how you wish to ...........that is what makes "authors" interesting..........and it don't make any different if you write because its a "hobby" or you do it for "many dollars".............you have something to say, you've read, researched, and compiled.....and you wish to let others know what you found....but you wish to tell it "your way"....................I say, "GO FOR IT"..... Enjoy!!

In July I wrote Bud that I had starter a new web site ( The history of Oakland Kansas & More) a site where I could put other writings. I like to write about history, but I like to write short stories or just what’s on my mind, and my surname web site was not the place to put it. So I started a new one. I wrote Bud and asked if he ever wrote. outside his field and how he felt about it.

Bud’s reply of July 9, 08.

Well Dennis it is my belief that 'writing' ....as a hobby, or as a profession...can lead the author to become narrow in the vision of subject matter. It is also my belief that "How does one know what 'May' be interesting 'outside' their normal subject unless they venture out to "Dabble" in ......other writings. I myself I have many writings....[actually 98%] ....are tied to "Naval History".....but....and it is a big "but"....I have a huge interest in "General History" of just about any sort...... Do I ever write about it?? Nope!!....never have. For some damn reason I've never taken that step as you have, so I look at individuals such as you that broaden their scopes of writing material as "Neat as hell." I don't consider myself a "writer"....or anywhere close to an "author", and I don't have any "formal" training in writing "anything".........in fact a Captain aboard a sub I was on one time was looking over a report I wrote about one of the dives that I & my dive crew just got done doing...[had to recover several bodies from small fishing vessel]....and he simply stated: "Bud, you and your crew are good under the water...you get the job done..and I wouldn't do what you guys do for all the money in the world......but let me tell you.....'You are not worth a shit at writing up a document afterward....no proper English, spelling is worse than my 8 yr. old...and you write as you talk....not good!!!!!" So Dennis I just "write" for the fun of it........I really don't give a "rats butt" who likes it or who doesn't........I just enjoy doing it..........if I had to write something and attempt to get paid for it....I'd probably "HATE IT!!!"

At my age Dennis......I like to do things I "like to do".....first of all to have fun while accomplishing the task....and for it to be informative and interesting to others...........

So.......I pat you on the back for spreading your wings and venturing into other writing subject matter..........I think you'll be pleasantly surprised of the comments you receive............. I think it is damn good.............and it also tells "Who Dennis is"............to the reader....kind of gives them a "sneak peek" inside your thoughts as you write........ Enjoy....and keep it up........

Saturday, June 28, 2008

Names of Dartmoor Prison-Page 2.

In page one we talked about the men who either died or came home from Dartmoor and their wife’s., we left off with the list of “American Deaths At The Dartmoor Depot During The War of 1812.” This list will continue here, after the list I will talk about the massacre of April 6, 1815. This page will have a report on the massacre and the names of the Americans and British soldiers who give statements at the enquiry, and a lot more.

Note. Those of you who may have a need to write to Ron Joy may do so at: ronjoy1@tinyworld.co.uk and for those of you who may need some help from me may write to me at: dsegelquist1@cox.net

American Deaths At The Dartmoor Depot During The War of 1812.

101. Charles Baker, Prison No. 2942, Ship Atalante, Rank Seamen, Hometown Virginia, Age 19, Died on Jan. 30, 1815.

102. Josh Glodding, Prison No. 2957, Ship Rattlesnake, Rank Seamen, Hometown Rhode Island, Age 31, Died on Mar. 14, 1815.

103. Ed Powsland, Prison No. 2990, Ship Frolic, Rank Seamen, Hometown Beverly, Age 45, Died on Jun. 8, 1815.

104. Rich Studdy, Prison No. 3035, Ship America, Rank Seamen, Hometown Virginia, Age 30, Died on Nov. 3, 1814.

105. Henry Holding, Prison No. 3054, Ship Sultan, Rank Seamen, Hometown Boston, Age 27, Died on Mar. 6, 1815.

106. Jacob Eph Pinkham, Prison No. 3100, Ship Mammouth, Rank Seamen, Hometown Mass., Age 22, Died on Sept. 25, 1814.

107. John Collins, Prison No. 3103, Ship Mammouth, Rank Seamen, Hometown Philadelphia, Age 24, Died on Oct. 8, 1814.

108. John Haywood, Prison No. 3134, Ship Scipion, Rank Seamen, Hometown Maryland, Age 25, Died on Apr. 6, 1815.

109. William Williams, Prison No. 3141, Ship Rebecca, Rank Seamen, Hometown Georgetown, Died on Oct. 27, 1814.

110. Henry Sherriden, Prison No. 3187, Ship Scipion, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 22, Died on Jan. 24, 1815.

111. Peter Barry, Prison No. 3222, Ship Jalouse, Rank Seamen, Hometown Salem, Age 39, Died on Nov. 26, 1814.

112. William Meads, Prison No. 3271, Ship Snapdragon, Rank Seamen, Hometown North Carolina, Age 20, Died on Jul 24, 1815.

113. J. Pettingall, Prison No. 3297, Ship Enterprise, Rank Seamen, Hometown Salem, Age 18, Died on Oct. 7, 1814.

114. Josh Windyer, Prison No. 3376, Ship Growler, Rank Seamen, Hometown Marblehead, Age 21, Died on Jan 6, 1815.

115. Thomas Jones, Prison No. 3434, Ship Growler, Rank Cook, Hometown Baltimore, Age 38, Died on Feb. 23, 1815.

116. J. Williams, Prison No. 3442, Ship Clorinde, Rank Seamen, Hometown Marthas Vineyard, Age 26, Died on Feb. 1, 1815.

117. John Bateman, Prison No. 3459, Ship Chasseur, Rank Seamen, Hometown Baltimore, Age 18, Died on Nov. 23, 1814.

118. Henry Thompson, Prison No. 3470, Ship Prince, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 28, Died on Feb. 21, 1815.

119. Dan Nash, Prison No. 3485, Ship Prince, Rank Seamen, Hometown Dorset, Age 31, Died on Feb 14, 1814.

120. John Davenport, Prison No. 3522, Ship Sabine, Rank Seamen, Hometown Easthaven, Age 21, Died on Jun. 10, 1815.

121.Placid Lovely, Prison No. 3544, Ship Hawk, Rank Seamen, Hometown New Orleans, Age 29, Died on Nov. 1, 1814.

122. William Coleman, Prison No. 3547, Ship Hawk, Rank Seamen, Hometown North Carolina, Age 21, Died on Nov. 5, 1814.

123. Lewis Brien, Prison No. 3549, Ship Hawk, Rank Seamen, Hometown North Carolina, Age 24, Died on Nov. 5, 1814.

124. Sam Harrison, Prison No. 3571, Ship Hawk, Rank Seamen, Hometown North Carolina, Age 21, Died on Jan. 6, 1815.

125. William Johnson, Prison No. 3574, Ship William, Rank Seamen, Hometown Charlestown, Age 25, Died on Nov. 2, 1814.

126. Henry Burbidge, Prison No. 3582, Ship Greyhound, Rank Seamen, Hometown Washington, Age 26, Died on Dec. 25, 1814.

127. Jacob Peterson, Prison No. 3588, Ship John, Rank Seamen, Hometown Rhode Island, Age 22, Died on Nov. 4, 1814.

128. Daniel Henry, Prison No. 3595, Ship Frolic, Rank Prize Master, Hometown Salem, Age 22, Died on Jan. 25, 1815.

129. Lawrence Peterson, Prison No. 3629, Ship Nonsuch, Rank Seamen, Hometown unknown, Age unknown, Died on Jan. 8, 1814.

130. John Thomas, Prison No. 3656, Ship Albert Gerry, Rank Seamen, Hometown unknown, Age unknown, Died on Oct. 25, 1814.

131. Nath Curren, Prison No. 3733, Ship Lizard, Rank Gunner, Hometown Salem, Age 22, Died on Jun. 1, 1815.

132. John Kelley, Prison No. 3756, Ship Alfred, Rank Seamen, Hometown Marblehead, Age 62, Died on Mar. 29, 1815.

133. John Raysden, Prison No. 3795, Ship Pike, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 32, Died on Feb. 14, 1815.

134. Peter Amos, Prison No. 3821, Ship Invincible, Rank Passenger, Hometown Marthas Vineyard, Age 22, Died on Feb. 19, 1815.

135. Albert Mingo, Prison No. 3827, Ship Quiz, Rank Passenger, Hometown New Orleans, Age 29, Died on Oct. 25, 1814.

136. Thomas Parker, Prison No. 3842, Ship Dominique, Rank Seamen, Hometown Delaware, Age 22, Died on Nov 5, 1814.

137. Uriel King, Prison No. 3847, Ship Dominique, Rank Seamen, Hometown Mass., Age 22, Died on Feb. 3, 1815.

138. James Barnett, Prison No. 3862, Ship Busy, Rank Mate, Hometown Pennsylvania, Age 56, Died on Dec. 8, 1814.

139. Lewis Stove, Prison No. 3874, Ship Ticker, Rank Seamen, Hometown Conn., Age 32, Died on Nov. 21, 1814.

140. Charles Monte, Prison No. 3879, Ship Fame, Eank Seamen, Hometown San Antonio, Age 22, Died on Feb. 21, 1815.

141. Abm Tomkins, Prison No. 3896, Ship Governor Shelby, Rank Seamen, Home Town New York, Age 36. Died on Nov. 3, 1814.

142. Peter Birch, Prison No. 3900, Ship Prosperity, Rank Seamen, Hometown Philadelphia, Age 57, Died on Mar. 13, 1815.

143. James Cateret, Prison No. 3901, Ship Mary, Rank Seamen, Hometown Talbot, Age 22, Died on Nov. 11, 1814.

144. John Washington, Prison No. 3936, Ship Rolla, Rank Seamen, Hometown Savannah, Age 25, Died on Apr. 6, 1815.

145. Tim Gardner, Prison No. 3953, Ship Rolla, Rank Seamen, Hometown Rhode Island, Age 19, Died on Jan. 15, 1815.

146. William Gibson, Prison No. 3981, Ship Rattlesnake, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Died on Oct. 22, 1814.

147. John Turney, Prison No. 3985, Ship Rattlesnake, Rank Seamen, Hometown Mass., Age 23, Died on Apr. 5, 1815.

148. John Gladding, Prison No. 4011, Ship Rattlesnake, Rank Gunner, Hometown New Jersey, Age 37, Died on Mar. 14, 1815.

149. Sam Lilley, Prison No. 4030, Ship Rattlesnake, Rank Seamen, Hometown Boston, Age 19, Died on May 16, 1815.

150. Francis Hobday, Prison No. 4041, Ship Rattlesnake, Rank Marine, Hometown Gloster, Age 25, Died on Feb. 24, 1815.

151. David Read, Prison No. 4069, Ship Leicester, Rank Seamen, Hometown Wiscasset, Age 21, Died on Nov. 14, 1814.

152. Richard Smith, Prison No. 4194, Unit General Kemph, Rank Seamen, Hometown Salem, Age 24, Died on Apr. 14, 1815.

153. James Tucker, Prison No. 4219, Ship Liberty, Rank Seamen, Hometown Long Island, Age 24, Died on Apr. 28, 1815.

154. John Brissons, Prison No. 4231, Ship Bunker Hill, Rank Seamen, Hometown Baltimore, Age 32, Died on Jan. 24, 1815.

155. Charles Williams, Prison No. 4236, Ship Pilot, Rank Seamen, Hometown New London, Age 22, Died on Mar. 9, 1815.

156. John Carson, Prison No. 4326, Ship Fiere Facias, Rank Seamen, Hometown New Orleans, Age 26, Died on Oct. 16, 1814.

157. Richard Smides, Prison No. 4333, Ship Flash, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 17, Died on Mar. 6, 1815.

158. Sam Boardby, Prison No. 4356, Ship Fiere Facias, Rank Seamen, Hometown Baltimore, Age 29, Died on Mar. 29, 1815.

159. Isaac Harman, Prison No. 4423, Ship Elbridge Gerry, Rank Q. Master, Hometown Mass., Died on Nov. 9, 1814.

160. John Long, Prison No. 4460, Ship Fame, Rank Seamen. Hometown Mass., Age 21, Died on May 29, 1815.

161. David Simonds, Prison No. 4479, Ship Enterprise, Rank Seamen, Hometown Mass., Age 18, Died on Jan. 22, 1815.

162. Joseph Lackey, Prison No. 4486, Ship Enterprise, Rank Seamen, Hometown Marblehead, Age 30, Died on Feb. 4, 1815.

163. Thomas Cooper, Prison No. 4549, Ship Union, Rank 2nd. Mate, Hometown Mass., Age 34, Died on Nov. 8, 1814.

164. Isaac Jones, Prison No. 4556, Ship Hussar, Rank Seamen, Hometown Boston, Age, 22, Died on Jan. 23, 1815.

165. William Brown, Prison No. 4628, Ship Ulysses, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 30, Died Jul. 20, 1815.

166. James O. Cussar, Prison No. 4705, Ship Volunteer, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 39, Died Dec. 7, 1814.

167. Stephen Jones, Prison No. 4707, Ship Volunteer, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 27, Died on Nov. 4, 1814.

168. James Jones, Prison No. 4718, Ship Hussar, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 27, Died on May 27, 1815.

169. Joshua Fowler, Prison No. 4730, Ship Theban, Rank Seamen, Hometown Boston, Age 30, Died on Jan. 30, 1815.

170. Gideon Porter, Prison No. 4737, Ship Acteon, Rank Seamen, Hometown Newport, Age 32, Died on Mar. 22, 1815.

171. Jerry Gardner, Prison No. 4739, Ship A Brig, Rank Seamen, Hometown Rhode Island, Age 27, Died on Mar. 1, 1815.

172. William Adam, Prison No. 4755, Ship Africa, Rank Seamen, Hometown Colchester, Age 22, Died on Mar 15, 1815.

173. Thomas Greaves, Prison No. 4785, Ship Port Manhon, Rank Seamen, Hometown Boston, Age 28, Died on Feb. 23, 1815.

174. Jacob Sawyer, Prison No. 4788, Ship Impressed, Rank Seamen, Hometown Providence, Age 27, Died on Oct. 25, 1814.

175. James Knabbs, Prison No. 4798, Ship President, Rank Seamen, Hometown Baltimore, Age 22, Died on Feb. 26, 1815.

176. Pedro Joseph, Prison No. 4810, Ship President, Rank Seamen, Hometown Guadaloupe, Age 26, Died on Feb. 25, 1815.

177. N. Mendoza, Prison No. 4811, Ship President, Rank Seamen, Hometown Carthegena, Age 28, Died on Oct. 25, 1814.

178. St Yago Compichi, Prison No. 4820, Ship President, Rank Seamen, Hometown Carthagena, Age 18, Died on Jan. 16, 1815.

179. Amb Leman, Prison No. 4824, Ship President, Rank Seamen, Hometown Carthagena, Age 19, Died on Oct. 24, 1814.

180. Jose Almeno, Prison No. 4825, Ship President, Rank Seamen, Hometown Carthagena, Age 16, Died on Nov. 3, 1814.

181. Martin Aubury, Prison No. 4826, Ship President, Rank Seamen, Hometown Carthagena, Age 19, Died on Feb. 17, 1815.

182. John Johannes, Prison No. 4836, Ship President, Rank Seamen, Hometown St Thomas, Age 55, Died on Jan 8, 1815.

183. John Jennings, Prison No. 4846, Ship Hawke, Rank Seamen, Hometown Marthas Vineyard, Age 18, Died on Feb. 22, 1815.

184. William Adams, Prison No. 4848, Ship Hawk, Rank Seamen, Hometown North Carolina, Age 22, Died on Apr. 24, 1815.

185. Eben. Simonds, Prison No. 4850, Ship give himself up., Rank Seamen, Hometown Newburyport, Age 20,

186. James Adams, Prison No. 4851, Ship Greyhound, Hometown North Carolina, Age. 20, Died on Nov. 6, 1814.

187. Edw. Evans, Prison No. 4853, Ship North Star, Rank Seamen, Hometown Virginia, Age 27, Died on Jan. 5, 1815.

188. Luke Rogers, Prison No. 4856, Ship Fairy, Rank Seamen, Hometown North Carolina, Age 24, Died on Nov. 13, 1814.

189. Jacob Moral, Prison No. 4871, Ship Fox, Rank Mass., Hometown Mass., Age 22, Died on Apr. 27, 1815.

190. William Loveridge, Prison No. 4884, Ship Saratoga, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 18, Died on Apr. 6, 1815.

191. Charles Fisher, Prison No. 4886, Ship Saratoga, Rank Seamen, Hometown Delaware, Age 33, Died on Apr. 6, 1815.

192. James Congdon, Prison No. 4893, Ship Goree, Rank Seamen, Hometown Rhode Island, Age 19, Died on Nov. 11, 1814.

193. John Menillo, Prison No. 4917, Ship Rattlesnake, Rank Seamen, Hometown Fallspoint Baltimore, Age 21, Died on Nov. 18, 1814.

194. Josh Gwynn, Prison No. 4930, Ship Herald, Rank Seamen, Hometown Salem, Age 18, Died on Feb. 22, 1815.

195. Asha Allan, Prison No. 4956, Ship Herald, Rank Seamen, Hometown New Bedford, Age 37, Died on Nov. 14, 1814.

196. Nicholas Smith, Prison No. 4958, Ship Herald, Rank Seamen, Hometown Richmond, Age 25, Died on Jan. 9, 1815.

197. John Baptiste Allen, Prison No. 4967, Ship Herald, Hometown Africa, Age 40, Died on Nov. 21, 1814.

198. Isaac Simondson, Prison No. 4995, Ship Invincible, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 20, Died on Nov. 20, 1814.

199. Anthony Lamb, Prison No. 5008, Ship Grand Turk, Rank Seamen, Hometown Conn., Age 19, Died on Nov. 22, 1814.

200. D. Miller, Prison No. 5014, Ship Mammouth, Rank Seamen, Hometown New Jersey, Age 26, Died on Feb. 23, 1815.

201. Sol Marshall, Prison No. 5019, Ship Mammouth, Rank Seamen, Hometown Mass., Age 27, Died on Nov. 20, 1814.

202. M. Gennifon, Prison No. 5025, Ship Syren, Rank Seamen, Hometown Baltimore, Age 25, Died on Nov. 12, 1814.

203. John Polland, Prison No. 5052, Ship Ida, Rank Seamen, Hometown Brazil, Age 27, Died on Nov. 23, 1814.

204. Isacher Bray, Prison No. 5053, Ship Ida, Rank Seamen, Hometown Cape Ann, Age 23, Died on Nov. 20, 1814.

205. Josh Palmer, Prison No. 5054, Ship Ida, Rank Seamen, Hometown Portsmouth, Age 18, Died on Nov. 17, 1814.

206. Amos De Bates, Prison No. 5063, Ship Ida, Rank Seamen, Hometown Hamburg Con. Age 22, Died on Nov. 18, 1814.

207. Joel Perigo, Prison No. 5064, Ship Ida, Rank Seamen, Hometown Conn., Age 28, Died on Nov. 24, 1814.

208. Sylas Denham, Prison No. 5074, Ship Ida, Rank Seamen, Hometown Boston, Age 21, Died on Nov. 14, 1814.

209. John Adams, Prison No. 5089, Ship Ida, Rank Sailing Mate, Hometown Boston, Age 27, Died on Dec. 3, 1814.

210. Eman Jose, Prison No. 5095, Ship David Porter, Rank Seamen, Hometown Portugal, Age 20, Died on Nov. 25, 1814.

211. David Taylor, Prison No. 5105, Ship David Porter, Rank Seamen, Hometown Philadelphia, Age 19, Died on Jun. 19, 1815.

212. Josh Andrews, Prison No. 5108, Ship David Porter, Rank Seamen, Hometown Ipswich, Age 21, Died on Nov. 21, 1814.

213. William Harris, Prison No. 5116, Ship Portsmouth, Rank Seamen, Hometown Portsmouth, Age 16, Died on Nov. 24, 1814.

214. Ramos Coffee, Prison No. 5118, Ship Portsmouth, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York. Age 26, Died on Dec 4, 1814.

215. Thomas Rowlinson, Prison No. 5137, Ship Calabria, Rank Seamen, Hometown Virginia, Age 22, Died on Nov. 26, 1814.

216. George West, Prison No. 5140, Ship give himself up., Rank Seamen, Hometown Delaware, Age 48, Died on Jan. 27, 1815.

217. Rich Holstein, Prison No. 5144, Ship Baroness Longerville, Rank Seamen, Hometown 33, Age 33, Died on May 25, 1815.

218. James Roth, Prison No. 5232, Ship Mary, Rank Seamen, Hometown Norwich, Age 25, Died on Dec. 29, 1814.

219. James Davis, Prison No. 5240, Ship York Town, Rank Seamen, Hometown Savannah, Age 25, Died on Feb. 26, 1815.

220. Benjamin Marshall, Prison No. 5245, Ship Minden, Rank Seamen, Hometown Unknown, Age 23, Died on Mar. 27, 1815.

221. William Mista, Prison No. 5247, Ship Atlantic Rank Seamen, Hometown Virginia, Age 36, Died on Feb. 13, 1815.

222. Thomas Thompson, Prison No. 5314, Ship Thomas, Rank Seamen, Hometown Brooklin, Age 32, Died on Jun. 16, 1815.

223. Thomas Jarvis, Prison No. 5321, Ship Industry, Rank Seamen, Hometown Marblehead, Age 18, Died on Jan. 25, 1815.

224. William Packer, Prison No. 5375, Ship Derby, Rank Seamen, Hometown Barnstaple, Age 20, Died on Nov. 28, 1814.

225. David Turner, Prison No. 5376, Ship Derby, Rank Seamen, Hometown Boston, Age 23, Died on Mar. 17, 1815.

226. William Smart, Prison No. 5439, Ship Elephant, Rank Seamen, Hometown Virginia, Age 23, Died on Dec. 5, 1814.

227. Rueben Mitchell, Prison No. 5500, Ship No. 2 Gunboat, Rank Gunner, Hometown Maryland, Age 29, Died on May 11, 1815.

228. Richard Robert Lee, Prison No. 5537, Ship Amelia, Rank Seamen, Hometown Mass., Age 23, Died on Jan. 20, 1815.

229. Joseph Perkins, Prison No. 5553, Ship Lacey, Rank Boy, Hometown Mass., Age 18, Died on Apr. 20, 1815.

230. William Young, Prison No. 5559, Ship Levant, Rank Seamen, Hometown Beverly, Age 29, Died on Jan. 21, 1815.

231. Thomas Simmonds, Prison No. 5571, Ship Saratoga, Rank Seamen, Hometown New Bedford, Age 55, Died on Jan. 20, 1815.

232. Sam Tophouse, Prison No. 5604, Ship taken at Washington, Unit Soldier, Hometown Washington, Age 32, Died on Feb 11, 1815.

233. John Butler, Prison No. 5626, Ship Semiramis, Rank Seamen, Hometown Pennsylvania, Age 52, Died on Feb. 23, 1815.

234. P. Queenwell, Prison No. 5629, Ship Walker, Rank Seamen, Hometown Dartmoor, Age 33, Died on Jan. 27, 1815.

235. Martin Sutton, Prison No. 5647, Ship Lion, Rank Seamen, Hometown New Bedford, Age 26, Died on Feb. 22, 1815.

236. Rob Adams, Prison No. 5656, Ship Herald, Rank Seamen, Hometown unknown, Age unknown, Died on Feb. 5, 1815.

237. Veritas Conkland, Prison No. 5657, Ship Herald, Rank Seamen, Hometown New york, Age 20, Died on Jun. 23, 1815.

238. Jesse March, Prison No. 5691, Ship McDonough, Rank Seamen, Hometown Mass., Age 29, Died On Feb. 5, 1815.

239. Dan Archer, Prison No. 5698, Ship Grand Turk, Rank Prize Master, Hometown Salem Age 22, Died on Jan. 14, 1815.

240. Arch Allen, Prison No. 5706, Ship Harpy, Rank Seamen, Hometown Mass., Age 20, Died on Mar. 3, 1815.

241. John Devinas, Prison No. 5743, Ship Ohio, Rank Seamen, Hometown Salem, Age 18, Died on Apr. 12, 1815.

241. Josh Dennings, Prison No. 5744, Ship Ohio, Rank Seamen, Hometown Mass., Age 26, Died on Apr. 12, 1815.

242. Stephen Stacey, Prison No. 5750, Ship Ohio, Rank Seamen, Hometown Marblehead, Age 35, Died on Mar. 16, 1815.

243. George Brown, Prison No. 5788, Ship Ocean, Rank Seamen, Hometown Pennsylvania, Age 31, Died on Feb. 11, 1815.

244. Ebz. Holbrook, Prison No. 5793, Ship Derby, Rank Seamen, Hometown Weymouth, Age 24, Died on Mar. 9, 1815.

245. Sam Williams, Prison No. 5811, Ship Scorpion, Rank Seamen, Hometown Mass., Age 31, Died on Mar. 15, 1815.

246. Moses Bailey, Prison No. 5819, Ship Scorpion, Rank Seamen, Hometown Pennsylvania, Age 21, Died on Feb. 17, 1815.

247. Phillip Blasdon, Prison No. 5839, Unit 4 regiment rifles, Rank Soldier, Hometown New Hampshire, Age 35, Died on Jan. 17, 1815.

248. Shadrach Snell, Prison No. 5842, Unit 1 regiment rifles, Rank Fifer, Hometown Rhode Island, Age 19, Died on Mar. 16, 1815.

249. Smith Sheldon, Prison No. 5847, Unit Militia, Rank Soldier, Hometown Rhode Island, Age 25, Died on Jan. 19, 1815.

250. Elisha Holford, Prison No. 5853, Ship Barfluer, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 19, Died on Jan. 5, 1815.

251. Dan Bodge, Prison No. 5883, Ship Harlequin, Rank Seamen, Hometown Arundel, Age 23, Died on Jan. 16, 1815.

252. John Stone, Prison No. 5888, Ship Harlequin, Rank Seamen, Hometown Arundel, Age 44, Died on Jan. 5, 1815.

253. John Seapatch, Prison No. 5889, Ship Harlequin, Rank Boy, Hometown Mass., Died on Feb 7, 1815.

254. John Wittan, Prison No. 5895, Ship Harlequin, Rank Seamen, Hometown Portsmouth, Age 20, Died on Jan. 18, 1815.

255. Silus Squibb Prison No. 5976, Ship Harpy, Rank Seamen, Hometown New London, Age 21, Died on Mar. 18, 1815.

256. George Noore, Prison No. 6068, Ship Chasseur, Rank Seamen, Hometown Boston, Age 35, Died on Mar. 29, 1815.

257. William Fernald, Prison No. 6112, Ship Harpy, Rank Prize Master, Hometown Kihi?, Age 24, Died on Jan. 23, 1815.

258. Rich Lee, Prison No. 6126, Ship Grand Turk, Rank Seamen, Hometown Marblehead, Age 25, Died on Jun. 19, 1815.

259. Josh Tremerin, Prison No. 6149, Ship Mars, Rank Seamen, Hometown Philadelphia, Age 19, Died on Jun. 4, 1815.

260. John Flowers, Prison No. 6169, Ship Lion, Rank Seamen, Hometown Boston, Age 56, Died on May 6, 1815.

261. William Robinson, Prison No. 6264, Ship Plutarch, Rank Seamen, Hometown Philadelphia, Age 40, Died on Apr. 18, 1815.

262. Joseph Haycock, Prison No. 6371, Ship Syren, Rank Gunner, Hometown Portland, Age 55, Died on Mar. 20, 1815.

263. J. L. Osborne, Prison No. 6406, Ship Portsmouth, Rank Seamen, Hometown Newburyport, Age 18, Died on May 24, 1815.

264. Josh Salisbury, Prison No. 6442, Ship Jemmett, Rank Passenger, Hometown Newport, Age 22, Died on Mar. 13, 1815.

265. Jacob Hentey, Prison No. 6451, Ship Jemmett, Rank Seamen, Hometown Salem, Age 17, Died on Apr. 16, 1815.

266. Henry Campbell, Prison No. 6504, Ship give himself up., Rank Seamen, Hometown Delaware, Age 28, Died on Mar. 22, 1815.

267. John Jack, Prison No. 6514, Ship Orantes, Rank Seamen, Hometown Baltimore, Age 36, Died on Mar. 14, 1815.

268. John Peterson, Prison No. 6515, Ship Orantes, Rank Seamen, Hometown Albany, Age 31, Died on Jun 1, 1815.

269. Thomas Jackson, Prison No. 6520, Ship Orantes, Rank Seamen, Hometown New York, Age 14, Died on Apr. 7, 1815.

270. Ed Powsland, Prison No. 2990, Ship Frolic, Rank Seamen, Hometown Beverly, Age 45, Died on Jun. 8, 1815.

271. Josh Gladding, Prison No. 4011, Ship Rattlesnake, Rank Gunner, Hometown New Jersey, Age 37, Died on Mar. 14, 1815.

272. George West, Prison No. 5140, Ship give himself up., Rank Seamen, Hometown Delaware, Age 48, Died on Jan. 27, 1815.

273. John Devinas, Prison No. 5743, Ship General Putnam, Rank Seamen, Hometown Salem, Age 18, Died on April 12, 1815.

Massacre at Dartmoor Prison April 6, 1815.

Note. This information comes from the Library of Congress.

American State Papers, House of Representatives, 14th Congress, 1st Session
Foreign Relations: Volume 4, Pages 19 through 55, No. 281. Great Britain--Massacre at Dartmoor prison.

Note. On April 4, two days before the massacre a large body of the prisoners rushed into the market square, from whence by the regulations of the prison they are excluded, demanding bread instead of biscuit, which had on that day been issued to the officers of the depot, their demands, however, having been then almost immediately complied with, they returned to their own yards; and the use of force was not necessary.

Here is a report by Charles King and Francis Seymour Larpent on the massacre. After the report there will be a list of Americans that were wounded and killed, along with the names who give statements on what they did and saw on that day. There is also a list of British soldiers and ( civilian?) who also give their statements on what did and saw on that day.

The report.

On the evening of the 6th, about six o'clock, it was clearly proved to us that a breach or hole had been made in one of the prison walls, sufficient for a full-sized man to pass, and that others had been commenced in the course of the day, near the same spot, though never completed; that a number of the prisoners were over the railing, erected to prevent them from communicating with the sentinels on the walls which was of course forbidden by the regulations of the prison; and that, in the space between the railing and those walls, they were tearing up pieces of turf, and want only pelting each other in a noisy and disorderly manner; that a much more considerable number of the prisoners were collected together at that tithe in one of their yards, near the place where the breach was effected; and that, although such collection of prisoners was not unusual at other times, (the gambling tables being commonly kept in that part of the yard,) yet, when connected with the circumstances of the breach and the time of the day, which was after the horn (the signal for the prisoners to retire to their respective prisons) had ceased to sound, it became a natural and jut ground of alarm to those who had charge of the depot.

It was also in evidence that, in the building formerly the petty officers prison, but now the guard barrack, which stands hi the yard; to which the hole in the wall would serve as a communication, a part of the arms of the guard who were off duty and were usually kept in the racks; and though there was no evidence that this was, in any respect, the motive which induced the prisoners to make the opening in the, wall, or even that they were ever acquainted with the fact, it naturally became at least a further cause for suspicion and alarm, and an additional reason for precaution.

Upon these grounds, Captain Shortland appears to us to have been justified in giving the order (which about this time lie seeing to have given) to sound the alarm-bell, the usual signal for collecting the officers of the depot, and putting the military on the alert. However reasonable and justifiable this was as a measure of precaution, the effects produced thereby in the prisons (but which could not have been intended) were most unfortunate, and deeply to be regretted.

A considerable number of prisoners in the yards where no disturbance existed before, and who sound of the bell rushed back from curiosity as it appears, towards the gates where by that time the crowd, had assembled; and many who were at the time absent from their yards, were also, from the plan of the prison, compelled, in order to reach their own homes, to pass by the same spot. And thus, that which was merely a measure of precaution, in its operation increased the evil it was intended to prevent. Almost at the same instant that the alarm-bell rang, (but whether before or subsequent is, upon the evidence, doubtful, though Captain Shortland states it positively as one of his further reasons for causing it o ring,) some one or more of the prisoners broke the iron chain which was the only fastening of No. 1 gate,1eading into the market square, by means of an iron bar; and a very considerable number of the prisoners immediately rushed towards that gate, and many of them began to press forward; as fast as the opening would permit into the square. There was no direct proof before us of previous concert or preparation on the part of the prisoners, and no evidence of their intention or disposition to effect their escape on this occasion, excepting that which arose by inference from the whole of the above detailed circumstances connected together.

The natural and almost irresistible inference to be drawn1 however, froth the conduct of the prisoners, by. Captain Shortland and the military, was, that an intention on the part of the prisoners to escape was on the point of being carried into execution, and it was at least certain that they were, by force, passing beyond the limits prescribed to them, at a time when they ought to have been quietly going in for the night. It was also in evidence that the outer gates of the market square were usually opened about this time to let the bread-wagon pass and repass to the store, although, at the period in question, they were in fact closed.

Under these circumstances, and with these impressions necessarily operating upon his mind, and the knowledge that, if the prisoners once penetrated through the square, the power of escape was almost to a certainty afforded to them, if they should be so disposed, Captain Shortlaud, in the first instance, proceed down the square, towards the prisoners, having ordered a part of the different guards, to the number of about fifty only at first, (though they were increased afterwards to follow him. For some time both he and Doctor Magrath endeavored, by quiet means and persuasion, to induce the prisoners to retire to their own yards explaining to them the fatal consequences which must ensue if they refused, as the military would, in that case, be necessarily compelled to employ force. The guard was, by this time, formed in the rear of Captain Shortland, about two-thirds of the way down the square: the latter is about one hundred feet broad, and the guards extended nearly all across. Captain Shortland, finding that persuasion was in vain, and that, although some were induced by it to make an effort to retire. others pressed on in considerable numbers, at last ordered about fifteen file of the guard, nearly n front of the gate which had been forced to charge the prisoners back to their own yards.

The prisoner were in some places as near the military that one of the soldiers states he could not come fairly to charge, and the military were unwilling to act against an enemy. Some f the prisoners, also were unwilling and reluctant to retire, and some pushing and straggling ensued between the parties arising party from intention, but mainly from the pressure of those behind preventing those in front from getting back. After some little time, however, this charge appears to have been so far effective, and that with little or no injury to the prisoners as to have driven them for the most part, quite down out of the square, with the exception of a small number, who continued their resistance about No. 1 gate. A grate crowd still remained collected after this in the passage between the square and prisoners yards, and in part of these yards in the vicinity of the gate. This assemblage still refused to withdraw and according to most of the English witnesses, and some of the American, was making a noise, hallooing, insulting, and provoking, and daring the military to fire; and, according to the evidence of several of the soldiers and some others, was pelting the military with large stones, by which some of them were actually struck. This circumstance is, however, denied by many of the American witnesses; and some of the English, upon having the question put to them stated that they saw no stones thrown previously to the firing, although their situation at the time was such as to enable them to see most of the other proceedings in the square.

Under these circumstances the firing commenced. With regard to any order having been given to fire, the evidence is very contradictory; several of the Americans swear very positively, that Captain Shortland gave that order; but the manner in which from the confusion of the moment, they describe this part of the transaction; is so different in its details, that it is very difficult to reconcile their testimony. Any of the soldiers, and other English witnesses, heard the word given by some one; but no one of them can swear it was by Captain Shortland, or by any one in particular; and some amongst whom is the officer commanding the gard, think, if Captain Shortland had given such an order, that they must have heard it, which they did not. In addition to this, Captain Shortland denies the fact; and from the situation in which he appears to have been placed at the time, even according to the American witnesses, in front of the soldiers, it may appear somewhat improbable that he such an order. But, however it may remain a matter of doubt whether the firing first began in the square by order, or was a spontaneous act of the soldiers themselves, it seems clear that it was continued and renewed both there and else where which out orders; and that on the platforms, and in several places about the prison, it was certainly commenced without any authority.

The fact of an order having been given at first, provided the firing was under the existing circumstances, justifiable, dose not appear very material in any other point of view then as showing a want of discipline and self possession in the troops, if they should have fired without orders. With regard to the above most important consideration of “ whether the firing was justifiable or not,” we are of opinion, under all the circumstances of the case, from the apprehension which the soldiers might fairly entertain, owning to the number and conduct of the prisoners, that this firing to a certain extent, was justifiable in a military point of view, in order to intimidate the prisoners, and compel them thereby to desist from acts of violence, and to retire as they were ordered, from a situation in which the responsibility of the agent and military could not permit them with safety to remain.

From the fact of the crowd being to close, and the firing, at first, being attended with very little injury, it appears probable that a large proportion of the muskets were, as stated by one or two of the witnesses, leveled over the heads of the prisoners; a circumstance, in some respects, to be lamented, as it induced them to cry out “ blank cartridges,” and merely irritated and encouraged them to renew their insults to the soldiery, which produced a repetition of the firing in a manner much more destructive.

The firing in the square having continued for some time, by which several of the prisoners sustained injuries, the greater part of them appear to have been running back with the utmost confusion and precipitation to their respective prison, and the cause for further firing seems, at this prison to have ceased. It appears, accordingly, that Captain Shortland was in the market square exerting himself and giving orders to the effect, and that Lieutenant Fortye had succeeded in stopping the fire of his part of the guard. Under these circumstance it is very difficult to find any justification for the renewal and continuance of the firing, which certainly took place both in the prison yards and elsewhere, though we have some evidence of subsequent provocation given to the military, and resistance to the turnkeys in shutting the prisons, and of stones being thrown out from within the prison doors.

The subsequent firing appears rather to have arisen from the state of individual irritation and exasperation on the part of the soldiers who followed the prisoners into their yards, and from the absence of nearly all the officers, who might have restrained it, as well as from the grate difficulty of putting and end to a firing which once commenced under such circumstances. Captain Shortland was from this time, busily occupied with the turnkeys in the square, receiving and taking care of the wounded. Ensign White remained with his guard at the breach, and Lieutenants Avecyne and Fortye, the only other subalterns known to have been present, continued in the square with the main bodies of their respective guards.

The time of the day, which was the officers dinner hour, will, in some measure, explain this, as it caused the absence of every officer from the prison whose presence was not indispensable there. And this circumstance, which has been urged as an argument to prove the intention of the prisoners to take this opportunity to escape, tended to increase the confusion, and to prevent those greater exertions being made which might, perhaps, have obviated at least a portion of the mischief which ensued.

At the time that the firing was going on in the square a cross fire was also kept up from several of the platforms on the walls round the prison, where the sentries stand, by straggling parties of soldiers, who ran up there for that purpose. As far as the fire was directed to disperse the men assembled round the breach, ( for which purpose it was most effectual, ) It seems to stand upon the same ground as that in the first instance in the square. But that part which, it is positively sworn, was directed against straggling parties of prisoners running about the yards and endeavoring to enter the few doors which the turnkeys, according to their usual practice, had left open, does seem, as stated, to have been wholly without object or excuse, and to have been a wanton attack upon the lives of defenseless, and at that time unoffending individuals. In the same or evening more sever terms, we must remark upon what was proved as to the firing into the doorways of the prison, more particularly into that of No.3 prison, at a time when the men were in crowds at the entrance.

From the position of the prison and of the door, and from the marks of the balls, which were pointed out to us, as well as from the evidence, it was clear this firing must proceeded from soldiers a very few feet from the doorways; and though it was certainly sworn that the prisoners were at the time of part of the firing at least, continuing to insult, and occasionally to throw stones at the soldiers, and that they were standing in the way of and impeding the turnkey who was there for the purpose of closing the door, yet still there was nothing stated which could in our view, at all justify such excessively harsh and severe treatment of helpless and unarmed prisoners, which all idea of escape was at an end. Under these impressions, we used every endeavor to ascertain if there was at least prospect of identifying any of the soldiers who had been guilty of the particular outrages here alluded to, or of tracing any particular death at that time to the firing of any particular individual, but without success; and all hopes of brining the offenders to punishment would seem to be at an end.

In conclusion, we the undersigned, have only to add, that whilst we lament, as we do most deeply, the unfortunate transaction which has been the subject of this inquiry, we find ourselves totally unable to suggest any steps to be taken as to those parts of it which seem most to call for redress and punishment.

Charles King.
Francis Seymour Larpent.

American Prisoners of War who gave statements to the Enquiry Board on the Massacre of 1815.

Note.Those of you who would like a report one will be provide upon request.

1. Richard Cephus
2. John Odiorne
3. Addison Holmes
4. David Spencer
5. James Greenlaw
6. Thomas Burgess
*7. Enoch Burnham-Statement is given below.
8.Homer Hull
9. John Slater Surname
10. Alexander Marshall
11. Cornelius Rowe
12. William Dewetter
13. Thomas Tindale
14. John C. Rowles
15. Niel McKinnon
16. John G. Gatchell
17. Andrew Davis
18. Gerard Smith
19. Robert Johnson
20. James N. Bushfield
21. William Clements
22. John Hubard
23. James Reeves
24. William Mitchell
25. Lot Davis

Here is a statement given by one of the Americans.

Enoch Burnham, a citizen of the United States, on his oath, saith: That on Thursday, the 6th, day of April instant, about half-past six o’clock in the evening, he went to the railing of the market place, and remained there about half an hour, when he saw a crowd of the prisoners making a noise, the. principal part of them were youngsters, full of mischief, and they came, some of them, between the two railings, and he saw seven or eight go into the market square, but there was no great body there; that at this time he saw some soldiers come down the square, and Captain Shortland with them, and the soldiers charged upon the prisoners, who retreated into No. 1 prison yard, without making any resistance; that this informant remained at the gate when the military began to fire, and at this time there was no crowd of prisoners within the gate—-there might have been forty or fifty men; that when the firing commenced he retreated into the prison yard; and lay down by the wall, and the prisoners who were about the gate also retreated; that this informant lay by the wall about five or seven minutes, when this informant went up by the barrack wall, towards where there was a hole, and the soldiers then began to fire from the ramparts of: the south wall, when he want to No. 7 prison, and got as far, as the steps, when a heavy firing again commenced from the wall, and this informant lay down to save his life for about four or five minutes, and then got into the prison, and was going through to go to his own prison, and had got to the steps, when the firing commenced from the platform next to the south corner; whereupon he retreated into No. 7 again, and went into the north end, and saw one prisoner in the. yard who appeared to be wounded, and he ran back against the wall and he saw several soldiers raise their muskets and fire at him, and he fell immediately, but this informant does not know who the man was; that this informant saw the wounded man lift up his hands towards the soldiers before they fired; that this informant did not see any stones thrown, but he heard some of the youngsters speak bout throwing stones; that he did not hear the word to fire given, and he was near the gratings; when the military first began to fire, they were at some distance from the gratings.

ENOCH BURNHAM.
Sworn before me, JOS. WHITEFORD, Coroner.

These names are of the British soldiers who give their statement to the board of Enquiry on what they saw and did at the time of the massacre.

Note. Those of you who would like a report one will be provide upon request.

1. Thomas Edwards-Private.
2. Samuel White-2nd, Lieutenant.
3. John Mitchell-Clerk to Governor.
4. Richard Arnold-Turnkey.
5. Stephen Hall-Turnkey.
6. George Magrath-Surgeon.
7. John Arnold- Steward.
8. William Gifford-Private, 1st., Somerset Militia.
9. James Groves-Private, 1st., Somerset Militia.
10. Robert Holmden-1 St. Clerk.
11. Robert McFarlane- Asst. surgeon.
12. Joseph Manning- Sergeant, 1st., Somerset Militia.
13. John Tozer-Turnkey.
14. Amos Wheeler-Sergeant, 1st., Somerset Militia.
15. John Saunders-Private, 1st., Somerset Militia.
16. William Smith-Private, 1st., Somerset Militia.
17. John Tutt-Private.
18. William Rowles-Private.
19.John Hamlet- Private.
20. John Williams-Sergeant.
21. John Twyfort Jolliff-Commanding Officer.
22. George Pitt-Sergeant.
23. Henry Burgoyne-Private.
24. Edward Jackson-Private, Derby Militia.
25. George Challacumb-Carter.
26. Samuel Best- Turnkey.
27. Richard Walker-Private, Derby Militia
28. William Norris-Turnkey.
29. John Rodd-Turnkey.
30. Daniel Nicholls-Turnkey.
31. David Pitmore-Turnkey.
32. John French-Turnkey.
33. James Carley-Turnkey.
34. Samuel Morgan-Turnkey.
35. William Wakelin-Turnkey.
36. Henry Wroe-Plumber.
37. John Mitchell-Clerk.
38. Robert Holmden-Clerk.
39. John Bennett-Clerk.
40. George Holland-Bugler.
41. John Collard-Sergeant, 1st., Somerset Militia.
42. Stephen Lapthorn-Private, 1st., Somerset Militia.
43. John Soathern-Private, Derby Militia
44. Samuel White-Ensign
45. Thomas George Shortland-Captain, Rn. Agent of Dartmoor Depot.

Note. Turkeys were the equivalent of the modern Prison Officers and were responsible in all the 7 War Prisons for feeding the prisoners, taking Roll Calls, security in the internal War Prisons and general locking up at the end of each day and were unarmed and in general charge of the internal War Prison.

Here is a statement given by British Turnkey.

Stephen Hall, one of the turnkeys at the prison of war at Dartmoor, on his oath, saith: “That on the 6th day of April instant, about a quarter before seven o’clock in the evening, he went into the market square, and went to the lower gate, when he saw some of the prisoners come over in a body from the wall which separates the barrack yard from the prison, and they came to the gate next to the hospital, an1 forced the gate open; and went up towards the market square; that this informant was close by Captain Shortland in the square, and heard the captain desire them to go back, but they said they would not; that there were some soldiers at this time formed in the market square, and when the prisoners refused to retire they came to a charge, and then this informant went to the rear, when he heard a single musket fire; and at this time he had not heard any person give orders to fire, nor did lie hear any such orders given afterwards; that after the musket was fired he went towards the lodge, sand hear a several muskets fired, and shortly after he heard the captain call for the, turnkeys to bring up the. wounded, when this informant went down and assisted in taking up two wounded men, one of them in the market square and the other in the prison, and he also picked up one man dead in the market square, but he does not know the man; that when this informant saw the prisoners coming across the yard towards the gate, they were behaving in a very riotous manner, and this informant observed that they had some iron bars, and he thinks that three of the men had an iron bar each; that he did not see either of the men attempt to strike with them; and he .did not see either of the prisoners throw any thing towards the military; that this informant heard the a1am-be11 ring just before he saw the prisoners come across the prison and force the gate; that after they had forced the gate this informant persuaded the prisoners. to go back, but they refused to do so; that they made no complaints whatever in this informant’s hearing; that on the 7th day of April instant, he was at the lower gate, when he heard some person who were walking between the railing, and they were talking about a black man that was killed; and this informant heard the prisoners say, if the black man had not been killed he would have killed Captain Shortland, and that he had a knife in his pocket prepared to stab him; that there was no person present with this informant at the time he heard this conversation, and he does not know the prisoners who were talking together.

Stephen Hall.
Sworn before me, JOSEPH WHITEFORD, Coroner.

The Americans prisoners of war who were shot and killed on April 6, 1815.

1. James Mann, Prison No. 970, Ship Siro, Hometown Boston, Age 30.

2. James Tooker Johnson, Prison No. 1347, Ship Paul Jones, Hometown Conn., Age 19.

3. * John Haywood, Prison No. 3134, Ship Scipion, Hometown Maryland, Age 25.

4. John Washington, Prison No. 3936, Ship Rolla, Hometown Savannah, Age 25.

5. William Loveridge, Prison No. 4884, Ship Saratoga, Hometown New York, Age 18.

6. * James Campbell, Prison No. 2647, Ship Voluntaire, Hometown New York Age 34, Died on the 7th., of April

7. * Thomas Jackson, Prison No. 6520, Ship Orontes, Hometown New York, Age 14, Died on the 7th., of April.

Note. The names with a star were impressed onto English Warships and give themselves up rather than fight against their own country men.

List of the Americans that were wounded on April 6, 1815.

1. John Gair, Prison No. 5769, Ship Rambler, Hometown Boston, Age 26, Wounds Amputated thigh.

2. William Penn, Prison No. 1722, Was impressed, Hometown Lancaster county Virginia, Age 26, Wounds Gunshot to thigh.

3. Cornelius Garrison, Prison No. 5003, Ship Invincible, Hometown Baltimore, Age 24, Wounds Gunshot to thigh.

4. Henry Montcalm, Prison No. 3614, Ship G. Tomkins, Hometown Boston, Age 21, Wounds Gunshot to knee.

5. Robert Willet, Prison No. 1965, Gave himself up., Hometown New Borough, Age 21, Wounds Thigh Amputated.

6. John Peach, Prison No. 5326, Ship Enterprize, Hometown Marblehead Mass., Age 17, Wounds Gunshot to thigh.

7. Edward Whittlebank, Prison No. 2148, Gave himself up., Hometown Portsmouth, Age 21, Wounds Bayonet wound to the back.

8. John Turnbull, Prison No. 1881, Ship Albridge Gerry, Hometown Portland, Age 16, Wounds Amputated arm.

9. Phillip Ford, Prison No. 1236, Ship HMS Sultan, Hometown Wilmington, Age 55, Wounds Severely wounded in the back.

10. James Bell, Prison No. 534, Ship Union, Hometown Virginia, Age 27, Wounds Bayonet wounds to the thigh.

11. James Wells, Prison No. 3652, Ship Thorn, Hometown Mass., Age 36, Wounds Gunshot fracture of Sacrum.

12. William Leversage, Prison No. 436, Ship Magdalene, Hometown Pennsylvania, Age 19, Wounds Unknown.

13. Edward Gardner, Prison No. 1024, Ship Joseph, Hometown South Kingston, Age 23, Wounds Gunshot fracture of the left arm.

14. Stephen Phipps, Prison No. 1546, Ship Zebra, Hometown Mass., Age 27, Wounds Bayonet wound in the abdomen.

15. John Roberts ( Black ), Prison No. 486, Give himself up., Hometown Baltimore, Age 21, Wounds Gunshot wound to the thigh.

16. Thomas Smith, Prison No. 1640, Ship Paul Jones, Hometown New York, Age 30, Wounds Amputation of thigh.

17. Caleb Codding, Prison No. 1819, Gave himself up., Hometown Mass., Age 48, Wounds Gunshot wounds to the leg.

18. John Davis, Prison No. 1143, Ship Bunker Hill, Hometown Cawford, Age 22, Wounds Gunshot wound to the thigh.

19. James Esdale/Esdaile, Prison No. 2013, Recaptured, Hometown Philadelphia, Age 25, Wounds Gunshot wounds to hip.

20. Peter Wilson, Prison No. 380, Ship Virginia Planter, Hometown New York, Age 25, Wounds Gunshot wound to the hand.

21. William Blake, Prison No. 2884, Ship Undaunted, Hometown Mass., Age 44, Wounds Bayonet wound.

22. John Hogabets, Prison No. 338, Ship Good Friends, Hometown Philadelphia, Age 25, Wounds Gunshot wound to the hip.

23. Ephraim Lincoln, Prison No. 4153, Ship Argus, Hometown Boston, Age 18, Wounds Gunshot wound to a hip.

24. Thomas Tindley, Prison No. 4493, Ship Enterprize, Hometown Mass., Age 16, Wounds Gunshot wound to a thigh.

25. John Howard, Prison No. 4109, Ship Flash, Hometown Bridgewater, Age 19, wounds Gunshot wound to a leg.

26. Joseph Masick, Prison No. 1229, Gave himself up., Hometown Charlestown, Age 31, Wounds Gunshot wound to a thigh.

27. John Willett, Prison No. 1812, Gave himself up., Hometown Newcastle, Age 32, Wounds Fractured hip and shattered Jaw.

28. Henry Wilson, Prison No. 2662, Gave himself up., Hometown Beachy/, Age 19, Wounds Bayonet wound.

29. Robert Fetters, Prison No. 6123, Ship Betsy, Hometown Bath, Age 22, Wounds Gunshot wound to the penis.

30. John Perry, Prison number is unreadable, Ship HMS Tiger, Hometown unknown, Age unknown, Wounds Gunshot wound to the shoulder.

Note. This is a miscellaneous names list, if you see a name that you would like information on you can write to Ron Joy at the above address, Give full name along with prison number.

1. Prison No. 836 Thomas, Perkins.
2. Prison No. 894 Elyja, Perkins.
3. Prison No. 3748 Henry, Perkins.
4. Prison No. 5685 Samuel, Perkins.
5. Prison No. 5677 Joseph, Perkins.
6. Prison No. 5553 Joseph, Perkins- Died 20 April 1814.
7. Prison No. 5690 George, Perkins.
8. Prison No. 4399 John, Perkins.
9. Prison No. 3396 John, Perkins.
10. Prison No. 946 John, Perkins- Died 3 Nov 1814.
11. Prison No. 4408 James, Perkins.
12. Prison No. 6408 Clem, Perkins.
13.Prison No. 6452 Thomas, Perkins.
14. Prison No. 3547 Samuel, Perkins.
15. Prison No. 3074 Samuel, Perkins.
16. Prison No. 1394 Edward Carter.
17. Prison No. 1395 Daniel Carter.
18. Prison No. 1312 Edward Carter.
19. Prison No. 1685 Jesse Carter.
20. Prison No. 1850 Thomas Carter .
21. Prison No. 4203 Henry Carter.
22. Prison No. 4213 Enoch Carter.
23. Prison No. 4880 George Carter.
24. Prison No. 1512 Edward Carter.
25. Prison No. 1413 William Goodwin.
26. Prison No. 5167 John Goodwin.
27. Prison No. 5896 Sam Goodwin.
28. Prison No. 1658 William Gore.
29. Prison No. 2976 Amos Gale.
30. Prison No. 4146 William Gale.
31. Prison No. 5463 Sam Gale.
32. Prison No. 6438 Russel Gale.
33. Prison No. 1317 Adam Stewart.
34. Prison No. 1421 William Stewart.
35. Prison No. 2131 James Stewart.
36. Prison No. 2643 John Stewart.
37. Prison No. 512 William Stewart.
38. Prison No. 1084 William Simons.
39. Prison No. 1288 John Simons.
40. Prison No. 1997 John Simons.